Slower SPEED after Ie6 installation

[a]

hallo

i have several machines

on one of them,
i had w98 and ie5 and ethernet router;
i used the "TCPOptimizer" little software and
my ADSL download speed was about 6.5 MB,
ok!

then i installed ie6 SP1,
i used "TCPOptimizer",
but my download speed is only 2.5 MB

it is not a browser matter, because i have several downloading softwares
and all of them is about 2.5 MB
(while previously they were about 6.5 MB);

in my opinion is something related to Windows' overwritten network settings

important note:
on the same router, i have plugged a second machine,
with W98 and ie6 SP1 too, but with USB connection;
the speed is about 5.7 (as it is alwayas has been)
so the router is ok

any idea of what settings an ie6 sp1 installation can modify?
this is a nasty situation

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Is the Win98 machine fully patched at Windows Update?

What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
in the background when you installed IE6 SP1?

Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

Try a Reset...
====================
Note: The following will delete all cookies. To save them beforehand: IE
File | Import and Export | Export Cookies | save the file in an appropriate
location. To import the backup afterwards: IE File | Import and Export |
Import Cookies | point the wizard to the saved file.

----------------------------------------
1. Click Start, Run, type: "inetcpl.cpl" (without quotation marks) and press
Enter.
2. Select the General tab, and in the Temporary Internet files window, click
"Delete Cookies", and click OK.
3. In the same tab click Delete Files, check the "Delete all offline
contents" box and click OK.
4. Click the Programs tab, and click "Reset Web Settings".
5. Click the Advanced tab, and click "Restore Defaults".
6. Under the Advanced tab, uncheck "Enable third-party browser extensions
(requires restart)".
7. Click OK.
8. Reboot.

Also see http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Post by a
hallo
i have several machines
on one of them,
i had w98 and ie5 and ethernet router;
i used the "TCPOptimizer" little software and
my ADSL download speed was about 6.5 MB,
ok!
then i installed ie6 SP1,
i used "TCPOptimizer",
but my download speed is only 2.5 MB
it is not a browser matter, because i have several downloading softwares
and all of them is about 2.5 MB
(while previously they were about 6.5 MB);
in my opinion is something related to Windows' overwritten network settings
on the same router, i have plugged a second machine,
with W98 and ie6 SP1 too, but with USB connection;
the speed is about 5.7 (as it is alwayas has been)
so the router is ok
any idea of what settings an ie6 sp1 installation can modify?
this is a nasty situation

[a]

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Is the Win98 machine fully patched at Windows Update?

it is windows98SE
it is not a matter of updating
with ie5 all was ok,
one hour later, after having installed ie6,
the speed was 1/3 only

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
in the background when you installed IE6 SP1?

none of these were installed, also i have no virus

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

never

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Try a Reset...
====================
Note: The following will delete all cookies. To save them beforehand: IE
File | Import and Export | Export Cookies | save the file in an appropriate
location. To import the backup afterwards: IE File | Import and Export |
Import Cookies | point the wizard to the saved file.
----------------------------------------
1. Click Start, Run, type: "inetcpl.cpl" (without quotation marks) and press
Enter.
2. Select the General tab, and in the Temporary Internet files window, click
"Delete Cookies", and click OK.
3. In the same tab click Delete Files, check the "Delete all offline
contents" box and click OK.
4. Click the Programs tab, and click "Reset Web Settings".
5. Click the Advanced tab, and click "Restore Defaults".
6. Under the Advanced tab, uncheck "Enable third-party browser extensions
(requires restart)".
7. Click OK.
8. Reboot.
Also see http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html

tried now but nothig changed;

it is not a matter of browser settings.
if the browser is closed and I run "GetRight" (a file downloader),
the speed is always 1/3 than it was....

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

The fact that the Win98 box may not be fully patched and that you don't have
a valid & functional anti-virus application installed and that you're not
using a firewall suggests that you have bigger problems than slower
downloads.

The computer should NOT be connected to the internet in its current state.

Backup your personal data, then do a format & clean install of Windows.
Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT fix this!

After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that
isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted:

5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:41:56 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Is the Win98 machine fully patched at Windows Update?

it is windows98SE
it is not a matter of updating
with ie5 all was ok,
one hour later, after having installed ie6,
the speed was 1/3 only

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than
Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these
applications running in the background when you installed IE6 SP1?

none of these were installed, also i have no virus

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

never

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Try a Reset...
====================
Note: The following will delete all cookies. To save them beforehand: IE
File | Import and Export | Export Cookies | save the file in an appropriate
location. To import the backup afterwards: IE File | Import and Export |
Import Cookies | point the wizard to the saved file.
----------------------------------------
1. Click Start, Run, type: "inetcpl.cpl" (without quotation marks) and
press Enter.
2. Select the General tab, and in the Temporary Internet files window,
click "Delete Cookies", and click OK.
3. In the same tab click Delete Files, check the "Delete all offline
contents" box and click OK.
4. Click the Programs tab, and click "Reset Web Settings".
5. Click the Advanced tab, and click "Restore Defaults".
6. Under the Advanced tab, uncheck "Enable third-party browser extensions
(requires restart)".
7. Click OK.
8. Reboot.
Also see
http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html

tried now but nothig changed;
it is not a matter of browser settings.
if the browser is closed and I run "GetRight" (a file downloader),
the speed is always 1/3 than it was....

[a]

i appreciate your concern about my security
but i pretty know what i do
i'm a desktop programmer (and hold several pc)

i have no virus
i never got one
i never (and repeat never) activated activex, javascript, java, flash (only
plain html code runs on)
only few fully secure old softwares are installed

i know almost all w98 files and registry entries

my guess is that a networking setting has been overwritten;
maybe i'm not in the right ng;
i'll find a more pertinent one...
first of all i'll try to restore ie5 back, but i'm afraid it could not do
the trick...

[Tom Willett]

ROFLMAO!
Aren't you the expert.
"a" <***@inwind.it> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
:i appreciate your concern about my security
: but i pretty know what i do
: i'm a desktop programmer (and hold several pc)
:
: i have no virus
: i never got one
: i never (and repeat never) activated activex, javascript, java, flash
(only
: plain html code runs on)
: only few fully secure old softwares are installed
:
: i know almost all w98 files and registry entries
:
: my guess is that a networking setting has been overwritten;
: maybe i'm not in the right ng;
: i'll find a more pertinent one...
: first of all i'll try to restore ie5 back, but i'm afraid it could not do
: the trick...
:

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

<snicker>

Post by Tom Willett
ROFLMAO!
Aren't you the expert.

Post by a
i appreciate your concern about my security
but i pretty know what i do
i'm a desktop programmer (and hold several pc)
i have no virus
i never got one
i never (and repeat never) activated activex, javascript, java, flash (only
plain html code runs on)
only few fully secure old softwares are installed
i know almost all w98 files and registry entries
my guess is that a networking setting has been overwritten;
maybe i'm not in the right ng;
i'll find a more pertinent one...
first of all i'll try to restore ie5 back, but i'm afraid it could not do
the trick...

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

The fact that the Win98 box may not be fully patched and that you don't have
a valid & functional anti-virus application installed and that you're not
using a firewall suggests that you have bigger problems than slower
downloads.

The computer should NOT be connected to the internet in its current state.

Backup your personal data, then do a format & clean install of Windows.
Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT fix this!

After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that
isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted:

5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:41:56 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Is the Win98 machine fully patched at Windows Update?

it is windows98SE
it is not a matter of updating
with ie5 all was ok,
one hour later, after having installed ie6,
the speed was 1/3 only

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than
Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these
applications running in the background when you installed IE6 SP1?

none of these were installed, also i have no virus

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

never

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Try a Reset...
====================
Note: The following will delete all cookies. To save them beforehand: IE
File | Import and Export | Export Cookies | save the file in an appropriate
location. To import the backup afterwards: IE File | Import and Export |
Import Cookies | point the wizard to the saved file.
----------------------------------------
1. Click Start, Run, type: "inetcpl.cpl" (without quotation marks) and
press Enter.
2. Select the General tab, and in the Temporary Internet files window,
click "Delete Cookies", and click OK.
3. In the same tab click Delete Files, check the "Delete all offline
contents" box and click OK.
4. Click the Programs tab, and click "Reset Web Settings".
5. Click the Advanced tab, and click "Restore Defaults".
6. Under the Advanced tab, uncheck "Enable third-party browser extensions
(requires restart)".
7. Click OK.
8. Reboot.
Also see
http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html

tried now but nothig changed;
it is not a matter of browser settings.
if the browser is closed and I run "GetRight" (a file downloader),
the speed is always 1/3 than it was....

[Rich/rerat]

"a",
Depending upon your hardware, video card, RAM, processor. IE6 or IE6 SP1,
may not be able to run correctly on a PC that has Win98 First Edition, or
even 2nd Edition installed, depending on the hardware that is installed on
the PC.

I have an old Packard Bell MM955 ,w/AMD K-6 333mHz, 128 MB EDO RAM, that
came with Win98FE. And I could only update it to IE/OE5.5. When IE6 came
out, I had problems with it, and had to revert back to IE/OE ver. 5.5

Win98 First Edition came with IE/OE4
Win98 Second Edition came with IE/OE5.0
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Is the Win98 machine fully patched at Windows Update?

What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
in the background when you installed IE6 SP1?

Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

Try a Reset...
====================
Note: The following will delete all cookies. To save them beforehand: IE
File | Import and Export | Export Cookies | save the file in an appropriate
location. To import the backup afterwards: IE File | Import and Export |
Import Cookies | point the wizard to the saved file.

----------------------------------------
1. Click Start, Run, type: "inetcpl.cpl" (without quotation marks) and press
Enter.
2. Select the General tab, and in the Temporary Internet files window, click
"Delete Cookies", and click OK.
3. In the same tab click Delete Files, check the "Delete all offline
contents" box and click OK.
4. Click the Programs tab, and click "Reset Web Settings".
5. Click the Advanced tab, and click "Restore Defaults".
6. Under the Advanced tab, uncheck "Enable third-party browser extensions
(requires restart)".
7. Click OK.
8. Reboot.

Also see http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Post by a
hallo
i have several machines
on one of them,
i had w98 and ie5 and ethernet router;
i used the "TCPOptimizer" little software and
my ADSL download speed was about 6.5 MB,
ok!
then i installed ie6 SP1,
i used "TCPOptimizer",
but my download speed is only 2.5 MB
it is not a browser matter, because i have several downloading softwares
and all of them is about 2.5 MB
(while previously they were about 6.5 MB);
in my opinion is something related to Windows' overwritten network settings
on the same router, i have plugged a second machine,
with W98 and ie6 SP1 too, but with USB connection;
the speed is about 5.7 (as it is alwayas has been)
so the router is ok
any idea of what settings an ie6 sp1 installation can modify?
this is a nasty situation

[a]

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Is the Win98 machine fully patched at Windows Update?

it is windows98SE
it is not a matter of updating
with ie5 all was ok,
one hour later, after having installed ie6,
the speed was 1/3 only

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
in the background when you installed IE6 SP1?

none of these were installed, also i have no virus

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

never

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Try a Reset...
====================
Note: The following will delete all cookies. To save them beforehand: IE
File | Import and Export | Export Cookies | save the file in an appropriate
location. To import the backup afterwards: IE File | Import and Export |
Import Cookies | point the wizard to the saved file.
----------------------------------------
1. Click Start, Run, type: "inetcpl.cpl" (without quotation marks) and press
Enter.
2. Select the General tab, and in the Temporary Internet files window, click
"Delete Cookies", and click OK.
3. In the same tab click Delete Files, check the "Delete all offline
contents" box and click OK.
4. Click the Programs tab, and click "Reset Web Settings".
5. Click the Advanced tab, and click "Restore Defaults".
6. Under the Advanced tab, uncheck "Enable third-party browser extensions
(requires restart)".
7. Click OK.
8. Reboot.
Also see http://www.malwarehelp.org/how-to-reset-internet-explorer-6-to.html

tried now but nothig changed;

it is not a matter of browser settings.
if the browser is closed and I run "GetRight" (a file downloader),
the speed is always 1/3 than it was....

[a]

cut

i got my speed back

i had a backup of W98 with ie5
so from another partiton
i deleted the current 'Windows' folder
and the current 'Programs/Internet Explorer' folder
(because they were slow, as you know)
and replaced them with the old 'Windows' and 'Internet Explorer' folders;
so I got ie5 (and its speed) back

then i installed ie6 sp1 again,
run TCPOtimizer to tune it up,
and all was ok (the speed was still there)

i dont't think i had a virus

i think i received some unwanted file from a Windows Media Player
or Flash Player sort of automated updating tasks;
files that were too heavy to run

or ie6 sp1 was(is) vulnerable even when processing and rendering
only plain html code indeed (no javascript, activex, java... activated);
ie5 never gave me problem about this

-----

also, previously, while surfing, i could hear a sort of "click" on every
clicked link,
but now I can hear it no more;
so in my opinion some .dll was overwritten by new "singing" (and slowing
down) versions
(also because what type of virus could have been a virus that revealed
itself by letting you hear a sort of "click"?)

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

<pst> Your computer is still hijackware-infested!

Post by a
cut
i got my speed back
i had a backup of W98 with ie5
so from another partiton
i deleted the current 'Windows' folder
and the current 'Programs/Internet Explorer' folder
(because they were slow, as you know)
and replaced them with the old 'Windows' and 'Internet Explorer' folders;
so I got ie5 (and its speed) back
then i installed ie6 sp1 again,
run TCPOtimizer to tune it up,
and all was ok (the speed was still there)
i dont't think i had a virus
i think i received some unwanted file from a Windows Media Player
or Flash Player sort of automated updating tasks;
files that were too heavy to run
or ie6 sp1 was(is) vulnerable even when processing and rendering
only plain html code indeed (no javascript, activex, java... activated);
ie5 never gave me problem about this
-----
also, previously, while surfing, i could hear a sort of "click" on every
clicked link,
but now I can hear it no more;
so in my opinion some .dll was overwritten by new "singing" (and slowing
down) versions
(also because what type of virus could have been a virus that revealed
itself by letting you hear a sort of "click"?)

[a]

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
<pst> Your computer is still hijackware-infested!

since 1998 (with ie5) i've never got a virus
(sorry for my 'duration form')

now the only different thing is ie5 > ie6 ,
is this what causes all?

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

who said anything about a virus?

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:42:22 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
<pst> Your computer is still hijackware-infested!

since 1998 (with ie5) i've never got a virus
(sorry for my 'duration form')
now the only different thing is ie5 > ie6 ,
is this what causes all?

[a]

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
who said anything about a virus?

ok, you spoke about hijackware;
i still keep on considering that my problems were most likely not caused by
malaware, anyway i'll perform a couple online scan (such Symantec one) next
days;
thanks for all

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:42:22 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
<pst> Your computer is still hijackware-infested!

since 1998 (with ie5) i've never got a virus
(sorry for my 'duration form')
now the only different thing is ie5 > ie6 ,
is this what causes all?

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

My previous replies mentioned one (1) online scan and it wasn't Symantec's.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 02:31:23 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
who said anything about a virus?

ok, you spoke about hijackware;
i still keep on considering that my problems were most likely not caused by
malaware, anyway i'll perform a couple online scan (such Symantec one) next
days;
thanks for all

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:42:22 -0400, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
<pst> Your computer is still hijackware-infested!

since 1998 (with ie5) i've never got a virus
(sorry for my 'duration form')
now the only different thing is ie5 > ie6 ,
is this what causes all?