Your security settings do not allow Web sites to use ActiveX contr

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William McIlroy

2008-10-09 04:50:00 UTC

A simple case of not having the right Adobe plug-in or add-on or whatever it
is caused. Once having navigated to the Adobe website, the website attempts
to do something ActiveX, which IE6 is very determined to prevent. The gold
information bar that IE6 displays permits the operator to display help text
that, when followed, does not open the gates of Hell and permit bats to fly
up into my computer. This is very frustrating. I notice other users at
various Google-able places on the 'Net have spent hours playing the same
losing game. I eventually used Mozilla to get what I wanted. Score:
Mozilla 1, Microsoft 0.

Your security settings do not allow Web sites to use ActiveX controls
installed on your computer.
This page may not display correctly.
Click here for options...

To help users, it would be nice to have a button that could be pressed to
(temporarily) unlock the protection mechanisms. That would permit Grandma
Know-nothing to hurt herself. But, what about me? Don't I count?

--
William McIlroy

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2008-10-09 15:39:38 UTC

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Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
posting to this newsgroup, please.

In which Security zone is the website running when you get this prompt?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Post by William McIlroy
A simple case of not having the right Adobe plug-in or add-on or whatever it
is caused. Once having navigated to the Adobe website, the website attempts
to do something ActiveX, which IE6 is very determined to prevent. The gold
information bar that IE6 displays permits the operator to display help text
that, when followed, does not open the gates of Hell and permit bats to fly
up into my computer. This is very frustrating. I notice other users at
various Google-able places on the 'Net have spent hours playing the same
Mozilla 1, Microsoft 0.
Your security settings do not allow Web sites to use ActiveX controls
installed on your computer.
This page may not display correctly.
Click here for options...
To help users, it would be nice to have a button that could be pressed to
(temporarily) unlock the protection mechanisms. That would permit Grandma
Know-nothing to hurt herself. But, what about me? Don't I count?

William McIlroy

2008-10-09 17:26:10 UTC

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See? The complexity is getting deep enough to require a sturdy pair of
boots. The version of IE6 (since replaced on my system with Firefox) is the
version of IE6 that is installed by default from the original Windows 2003
Server release CD (not R2). The configuration settings are also the default.
I understand why IE has assumed a defensive posture. But absolutely
disallowing installation of Adobe Flash is unwanted behavior. Maybe there is
some ritual that I could perform to get around the security problem, but I
haven't been to divinity school. It seems to me that IE6 was originally
intended to permit ActiveX controls to work, under certain circumstances,
after the user changes the default configuration settings using the obtuse
zones and parameters dialog boxes, but somebody did something to IE6 to make
it impossible. This has been reported by others elsewhere.
--
William McIlroy

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP1) when
posting to this newsgroup, please.
In which Security zone is the website running when you get this prompt?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Larry(LJL269)

2008-10-09 22:29:09 UTC

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Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes :) when imbedded in a web
page:

ActiveX can do some real damage to ur PC
Java can do less than ActiveX
Java Script cant do much harm

Why MS made ActiveX so powerful is beyond me!

So the Zones(sets in set theory) are attempting to regulate what each
web site in it can do. The glaring shortcoming is who defines what web
sites are in what zones? Even if we knew that they were 5000 sites
that should be in restricted zone who the hell is going to type all
those in? That problem was somewhat solved with IE-Spyad which is now
called Zoned Out which had nothing to do with MS. Again MS made a mass
and somebody else cleaned it up. Not real deep thinking going on here.

Hope that helps. Larry

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:26:10 -0700, William McIlroy

Post by William McIlroy
See? The complexity is getting deep enough to require a sturdy pair of
boots. The version of IE6 (since replaced on my system with Firefox) is the
version of IE6 that is installed by default from the original Windows 2003
Server release CD (not R2). The configuration settings are also the default.
I understand why IE has assumed a defensive posture. But absolutely
disallowing installation of Adobe Flash is unwanted behavior. Maybe there is
some ritual that I could perform to get around the security problem, but I
haven't been to divinity school. It seems to me that IE6 was originally
intended to permit ActiveX controls to work, under certain circumstances,
after the user changes the default configuration settings using the obtuse
zones and parameters dialog boxes, but somebody did something to IE6 to make
it impossible. This has been reported by others elsewhere.

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A working unsecure OS is infinitely better than non-working secure OS.
Just spent 1 week cleaning up the mess WUpdate made preventing
hypothetical security problems. http://microscum.com/comsense/

2008-10-10 02:28:47 UTC

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Post by William McIlroy
I understand why IE has assumed a defensive posture. But absolutely
disallowing installation of Adobe Flash is unwanted behavior. Maybe there is

One needs to install Adobe Flash Player only once and for all. Moreover, some people don't want it at all, because Flash animations devour their bandwidth. So I cannot see a problem here when user is prompted to install optional browser addon.
Btw. I sense some trolling her

PA Bear [MS MVP]

2008-10-10 02:32:50 UTC

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Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
In which Security zone is the website running when you get this prompt?

...original Windows 2003 Server release CD (not R2).

So your Server is NOT fully patched? Why not?
--
~PA Bear

See? The complexity is getting deep enough to require a sturdy pair of
boots. The version of IE6 (since replaced on my system with Firefox) is the
version of IE6 that is installed by default from the original Windows 2003
Server release CD (not R2). The configuration settings are also the
default. I understand why IE has assumed a defensive posture. But
absolutely disallowing installation of Adobe Flash is unwanted behavior.
Maybe there is some ritual that I could perform to get around the security
problem, but I haven't been to divinity school. It seems to me that IE6
was originally intended to permit ActiveX controls to work, under certain
circumstances, after the user changes the default configuration settings
using the obtuse zones and parameters dialog boxes, but somebody did
something to IE6 to make it impossible. This has been reported by others
elsewhere.

Post by William McIlroy
A simple case of not having the right Adobe plug-in or add-on or
whatever
it
is caused. Once having navigated to the Adobe website, the website attempts
to do something ActiveX, which IE6 is very determined to prevent. The gold
information bar that IE6 displays permits the operator to display help text
that, when followed, does not open the gates of Hell and permit bats to fly
up into my computer. This is very frustrating. I notice other users at
various Google-able places on the 'Net have spent hours playing the same
Mozilla 1, Microsoft 0.
Your security settings do not allow Web sites to use ActiveX controls
installed on your computer.
This page may not display correctly.
Click here for options...
To help users, it would be nice to have a button that could be pressed to
(temporarily) unlock the protection mechanisms. That would permit Grandma
Know-nothing to hurt herself. But, what about me? Don't I count?

Larry(LJL269)

2008-10-09 22:08:46 UTC

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Surely you're not suggesting that Microsoft abandoned its policy of
explaining everything to all users in the same way. This is their
one-size-fits-all policy.

Nor should you expect them to fix what they screwed up. Rather it's up
to you to do a " workaround".

I've yet to see a I/O diagram in any of their explanations. Just tell
me what I put in and when I get out. Then we could tell whether we're
dealing with a butter knife or machete.

Maybe they could try having nontechnical people write or at least
review their documentation. It worked quite well for us in 1970.

Hope that helps. Larry :)

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:50:00 -0700, William McIlroy